Philips PML8709 vs Haier Q80FUX

Direct comparison

Available screen sizes: 55”65”

Available screen sizes: 55”65”85”

Panel type: LCD VA

Resolution: 3840x2160

System: Google TV

Model year: 2024

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Panel type: LCD VA

Resolution: 3840x2160

System: Google TV

Model year: 2025

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Overall rating

6.1

5.8

  • Movies and series in UHD quality

    6.3

    5.9

  • Classic TV, YouTube

    6.6

    5.6

  • Sports broadcasts (TV and apps)

    5.6

    4.7

  • Gaming on console

    7.2

    6.7

  • TV as a computer monitor

    3.5

    6.0

  • Watching in bright light

    4.8

    4.8

  • Utility functions

    6.5

    5.6

  • Apps

    9.6

    9.6

  • Sound quality

    5.1

    5.5

Advantages

  • Google TV operating system – intuitive and versatile

  • Very good contrast

  • Very good coverage of the DCI-P3 and BT.2020 colour palettes

  • Low input lag - around 13 ms

  • Support for ALLM, VRR, and HGiG in gaming mode

  • Very good native contrast and decent black (thanks to the VA panel)

  • PFS / QLED filter - Wide colour gamut (approx. 95% DCI-P3)

  • Remarkably low input lag (below 10 ms at 120Hz and around 12 ms at 60Hz), making it an excellent choice for fast-paced games.

  • Support for 120Hz in lower resolution (Full HD) and the presence of VRR and ALLM

  • Support for Dolby Vision

  • Well-functioning file player from USB

  • Presence of an analogue headphone output (jack)

Disadvantages

No like
  • The quality of the HDR effect leaves a lot to be desired

  • No Dolby Vision

  • Not suitable for PC work

  • No Ambilight system

  • The image is quite heavily "blown out" in HDR

  • Google TV software is full of bugs, poor translations, and issues

  • Lack of any image enhancement features (noise reduction, gradient smoothing)

  • Average brightness

  • Flat, bass-less sound

  • High input lag in Dolby Vision mode for gaming

  • Odd and poorly ergonomic remote

Our verdict

The Philips PML8709 is a model that stands out in the offerings of the Chinese-Dutch manufacturer due to its uniqueness. Instead of the classic Philips operating system - TitanOS, we find the already well-known Google TV here, which provides extensive personalisation options and access to a vast library of applications. This television tempts us with very good contrast on one hand, while on the other hand, it surprises with a few unusual design decisions. In terms of picture quality, the PML8709 offers very good contrast, which, combined with wide colour gamut coverage, ensures excellent colour reproduction – especially after calibration. Despite a 60 Hz panel, the television is also suitable for occasional gaming thanks to support for features such as ALLM, VRR, and a low input lag of around 13 ms. On the other hand, Philips has deprived this model of one of the greatest advantages of its televisions – the Ambilight system. This unexpected move may disappoint many brand fans. Another weak point is performance in HDR – despite promising contrast results, the television performs averagely in this category. The average brightness and issues with details in brighter scenes give the impression that something has evidently gone wrong in the implementation of this feature. The Philips PML8709 is a television full of contrasts. On one hand, it offers solid black quality and interesting solutions for gamers, while on the other hand, some limitations, such as the lack of Ambilight and average brightness, mean that it is not a model without flaws. It is a good choice for those who value the versatility of Google TV and are looking for a television for everyday use.

The Haier Q80FUX television is one of the most schizophrenic propositions we've had in our editorial office for a long time. On one hand, we have a solid piece of equipment here: a VA panel ensuring deep blacks, as expected in this segment, and a QLED quantum filter that can indeed produce vibrant, eye-catching colours. This is the foundation upon which a really competitive mid-range receiver could have been built. Unfortunately, all this matrix potential is systematically thwarted by the software, which represents a true millstone around the neck of this model. The Achilles' heel of the Q80FUX is its total capitulation when faced with HDR10 materials. The electronics seem to completely misunderstand how to interpret the signal, resulting in the brightest parts of the image being continuously blown out, turning them into a flat, milky patch. If we add the Google TV system to this, which, although functional, is unstable, full of bugs, and annoying shortcomings, we see a product that feels raw and clearly shows the manufacturer's lack of experience. Just when we thought we had written this model off, we discovered its surprising niche. Once connected to a console, the Q80FUX undergoes a transformation. It turns out that this television offers an impressively low input lag, fully supports VRR, and can handle a 120Hz signal in Full HD resolution. In the gaming world, where responsiveness is everything, these parameters put it in a very good light. So, we are dealing with a device of very narrow specialization. This is not a universal living room television – it lacks stability and above all, any correctness when handling films. Rather, it is a budget-friendly, large-format monitor for gamers, who can consciously forgive it all the software flaws in exchange for those few key attributes needed for consoles/PC at a relatively affordable price.

TV appearance

HDMI inputs
3 x HDMI 2.0, 0 x HDMI 2.1
4 x HDMI 2.0, 0 x HDMI 2.1
Other inputs
RCA (Chinch)
Outputs
Toslink (Optical audio), eARC (HDMI), ARC (HDMI)
Toslink (Optical audio), eARC (HDMI), ARC (HDMI), Mini-Jack (Headphones)
Network Interfaces
Wi-Fi 2.4GHz, Wi-Fi 5GHz, Ethernet (LAN) 100Mbps
Wi-Fi 2.4GHz, Wi-Fi 5GHz, Ethernet (LAN) 100Mbps
Build quality
BuildQuality-Good
Average
Stand type
Legs
Central
Bezel color
Graphite
Graphite
Stand
Fixed
Fixed
Accessories
Stand
Stand

Contrast and black detail

7/10

6.3/10

Local dimming function: Yes, number of zones: 96 (16 x 6)

Local dimming function: No

Contrast:

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail

Result

58,650:1

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail

Result

37,150:1

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail

Result

10,850:1

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail

Result

6,150:1

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail

Result

5,100:1

Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

Result

5,200:1

Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

Result

7,400:1

Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

Result

7,550:1

Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

Result

7,300:1

Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

Result

6,450:1

Halo effect and black detail visibility:

Review Philips PML8709 Contrast and black detail
Review Haier Q80FUX Contrast and black detail

The model name 8709 "PML" refers to Philips mini-LED technology, but can we really call its backlighting that? In the 65-inch version, we counted only 96 local dimming zones. For mini-LED standards, this number seems too low, which raises questions as to whether we are actually dealing with a true mini-LED here. However, if we look at the black quality, the television performs quite well. On the first two test patterns, as well as in less demanding scenes, the picture is quite decent – blacks are deep and contrast is satisfactory. Problems begin, however, in more complex scenes, such as the last three test patterns, where small light elements appear on the screen. The local dimming algorithm seems to "get lost," unable to decide whether to brighten or darken a given area. The result is visible errors – reduced black quality and unevenness of the picture. An example of the local dimming zones' operation can be seen in a scene from the film Sicario 2. You can see how the dimming zones try to reproduce details, but at the same time, this leads to a slight brightening around the helicopter lights. However, despite these shortcomings, the black level in the Philips PML8709 is quite good, especially considering its price class.

I must admit that approaching a receiver in this price range, one instinctively crosses their fingers, hoping that at least the black won’t be a grey patch. Meanwhile, the Haier Q80FUX, specifically the 55-inch specimen residing in our editorial office, can very positively surprise in this regard. Its secret lies in the use of a VA panel, which inherently has a tendency to generate high contrast. And these are not empty promises. During screenings, in most cinematic shots, the contrast consistently reported levels from 5000:1, often reaching the threshold of 8000:1. These are really strong results, considering the fact that this television does not possess any, even minimal, form of local dimming. Translating this into experiences from behind the couch: for its price point, the Q80FUX offers simply solid black. Of course, it is not that perfectly velvety depth that makes the screen disappear into darkness. When we conduct a screening in conditions of full isolation from light, we notice that in the darkest parts of the image, the black reveals its budget origins, subtly veering towards a bluish hue. However, this is a defect that is easy to mask – just a bit of light from a lamp in the corner of the room is enough for this nuance to become invisible, and the image to regain satisfying depth.

HDR effect quality

4/10

4.9/10

Supported formats
HDR10, HDR10+, HLG
HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG
Color gamut coverage
DCI P3: 96.6%, Bt.2020: 83.1%
DCI P3: 94.6%, Bt.2020: 74.4%

Luminance measurements in HDR:

Review Philips PML8709 Brightness measurement

Result

367 nit

Review Philips PML8709 Brightness measurement

Result

126 nit

Review Philips PML8709 Brightness measurement

Result

309 nit

Review Philips PML8709 Brightness measurement

Result

119 nit

Review Philips PML8709 Brightness measurement

Result

348 nit

Review Haier Q80FUX Brightness measurement

Result

308 nit

Review Haier Q80FUX Brightness measurement

Result

327 nit

Review Haier Q80FUX Brightness measurement

Result

352 nit

Review Haier Q80FUX Brightness measurement

Result

330 nit

Review Haier Q80FUX Brightness measurement

Result

344 nit

Scene from the movie “Pan” (about 2800 nits)

Review Philips PML8709 HDR effect quality
Review Haier Q80FUX HDR effect quality

Scene from the movie “Billy Lynn” (about 1100 nits)

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Review Haier Q80FUX HDR effect quality

Static HDR10

Review Philips PML8709 HDR effect quality
Review Haier Q80FUX HDR effect quality

Dynamic: HDR10+

Dynamic: Dolby Vision

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Review Haier Q80FUX HDR effect quality

HDR luminance chart:

Haier Q80FUX

HDR luminance

Philips PML8709

HDR luminance

Looking at the results of the contrast, we expected that the algorithms responsible for the operation of zones in the Philips PML8709 would be at least decent. However, what we encountered during testing is difficult to explain. The average brightness we managed to achieve was only 350 nits, which is definitely too little to fully enjoy the effects of HDR. In practice, the television barely stands out against the backdrop of an average SDR. The situation becomes even more surprising for test scenes, such as the second one from the film Life of Pi or Sicario 2. Small light elements reach only 120 nits there, making them practically imperceptible. Such a level of brightness is completely at odds with contemporary HDR standards and significantly diminishes the experience of watching high-quality content. The only bright spot in this category is the very good coverage of wide colour gamuts – DCI-P3 at 97% and BT.2020 at 83%. This means that the colours are saturated and well-reproduced, which may improve the overall experience of watching HDR materials, if only a little. However, the lack of adequate brightness means that even this cannot save the Philips PML8709 in this category.

Alright, let’s move on to the topic that stirs up so much discussion, namely the capabilities of the television in HDR mode. Let’s state it clearly right away: the Haier Q80FUX is certainly not a brightness demon. The panel of this receiver can generate about 350 nits at peak, which in today’s terms is the absolute minimum to even talk about the presence of High Dynamic Range (HDR). On the positive side, this power is at least stable – regardless of which test pattern or film scene we used, the measurements consistently oscillated in the range of 300-350 nits. These are therefore results that are at best sufficient, definitely far from the dazzling display of capabilities we are accustomed to with more expensive models. Fortunately, there is one aspect in which the Q80FUX compensates for these shortcomings and does so impressively. After all, we are talking about a QLED television (more precisely PFS LED), which means that thanks to the quantum dot filter applied to the panel, it can generate really juicy, vibrant colours. These are not empty promises – a DCI-P3 colour gamut coverage of nearly 95% is an impressive result and directly translates into colours that are very pleasant to the eye and saturated.

Factory color reproduction

3.9/10

4/10

Review Philips PML8709 Factory color reproduction
Review Haier Q80FUX Factory color reproduction

Factory Mode

After calibration

Although theoretically the Filmmaker mode on the Philips PML8709 should provide natural colour reproduction, in reality it resembles store mode more closely. In the white balance, both for HD and 4K content, there is a clear dominance of the blue colour. This causes the image to appear washed out and cold, which is particularly noticeable in the comparative photo below.

The brightness characteristics also leave much to be desired. Both the gamma and EOTF curve show excessive screen brightening. As a result, there is a loss of detail in both the brighter and darker areas of the image, which further diminishes its credibility and naturalness. Bright elements appear unnaturally flat and lacking in variety.

These significant issues in white balance and brightness characteristics lead to noticeable errors in colour reproduction, which can be easily seen in films as well as in the Colour Checker test. The colours are inaccurate, impacting the overall image quality and visual experience. The factory settings require significant improvement in order to fully enjoy the potential of this television.

Factory settings for movie mode are rarely perfect, but in the case of the Q80FUX, we were confronted with a noticeable imbalance. In SDR content, the image was decidedly too warm, a result of excessive red in the white balance, giving the whole a slightly sepia tone. Ironically, in HDR materials, the television fell into the opposite extreme – an excess of blue caused an unnatural, cold effect in perception. However, it was not the capricious white balance that was the biggest problem with this television. The real culprit, responsible for the aforementioned issues, was hiding deeper. It turned out that the Q80FUX has completely miscalibrated gamma values and, crucial for HDR, a poorly executed EOTF curve. It was these erroneous factory settings that caused persistent clipping of the brightest parts of the image, overlaying them with that characteristic milky filter. Thus, we found the source of the problem. This state of affairs led to general, significant colour errors, which were easy to catch even for an untrained eye. Like every television we tested, we decided to calibrate this model as well, and the results of these adjustments can be found in the next paragraph.

Color reproduction after calibration

7.6/10

6.1/10

Review Philips PML8709 Color reproduction after calibration
Review Haier Q80FUX Color reproduction after calibration
Review Philips PML8709 Color reproduction after calibration
Review Haier Q80FUX Color reproduction after calibration

Philips offers advanced image calibration tools in its televisions, which we decided to fully utilise. The results? Although we managed to improve many aspects, it was not without difficulties. White balance was one of the biggest challenges – despite our efforts, this can be described as a fight against windmills. We managed to correct it significantly, resulting in the image now looking much better than in the factory settings, but it is still far from perfect. Particularly in some scenes, a subtle dominance of blue is visible, although not as intense as before. We achieved a substantial improvement in brightness characteristics – gamma now appears much more stable. The EOTF curve initially looks correct, however, when analysing film content, it is evident that the television struggles to maintain the appropriate characteristics. The algorithms are "battling," trying to adjust brightness, which may stem from the limited number of dimming zones that do not always cope with more complex scenes. Overall, the image after calibration looks much more pleasing to the eye – colours are more natural, and errors in colour reproduction have been minimised. Although it is still not perfect, the Philips PML8709 now performs significantly better than in the factory settings.

The results of our calibration procedures must, regrettably, be acknowledged as twofold. Generally speaking, the picture is undeniably better than before the corrections; however, the biggest winner of this process turned out to be SDR content. It is precisely there, after correcting the gamma and white balance graphs, that we achieved results that can confidently be called very good. After adjustment, the Q80FUX truly shines in standard dynamics, showing only slight errors in the most difficult skin tone reproductions. Unfortunately, the weakest link remains HDR content. Here lies the paradox: despite having calibrated the white balance to nearly perfection, the overall colour errors still remain at quite a high level. The reason is that the television continues to interpret static HDR10 metadata "in its own way," stubbornly enforcing that unfortunate image burn-out effect, which inevitably leads to significant distortions. Although we have successfully eliminated the factory excess of blue, it is precisely due to this interference of electronics that the screen still tends to stray into somewhat overly cold tones. That is just how this television is.

Smoothness of tonal transitions

9.1/10

7.5/10

Review Philips PML8709 Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Philips PML8709 Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Philips PML8709 Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Philips PML8709 Smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Smoothness of tonal transitions

The fluidity of tonal transitions in the Philips PML8709 is at a very high level. The colour gradation is incredibly smooth, and the transitions between shades appear natural and detailed. Even in more demanding scenes, the television performs excellently. Minor issues may arise with bright elements, where the gradation may be slightly less precise. However, these are such subtle differences that only the most discerning purists will notice them. For most users, the effects will be fully satisfying, and the image will maintain its impressive quality.

Analysing the ability of the television to handle subtle tonal transitions, known as "banding", leads us to interesting conclusions. The Haier Q80FUX seamlessly blends neighbouring colours in most scenes, creating a smooth, cohesive image. However, this process is not perfect. During testing, we noted minor issues and imperfections in every test scene we used. These may not be errors that aggressively stand out and ruin the viewing experience, yet their presence is worth noting. Interestingly, this receiver shows no particular weaknesses or strengths in this regard – it handles this challenge in exactly the same way, whether displaying delicate gradients of a bright sky or dark transitions in the shadows.

Image scaling and smoothness of tonal transitions

6.9/10

4/10

Image without overscan on the SD signal
OK
OK
Smooth transition function
OK
No

Smooth transition function

Review Philips PML8709 Image scaling and smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Image scaling and smoothness of tonal transitions

Image without overscan on the SD signal

Review Philips PML8709 Image scaling and smoothness of tonal transitions
Review Haier Q80FUX Image scaling and smoothness of tonal transitions

The distortion reduction function in the Philips PML8709 smooths tonal transitions, but its effectiveness leaves much to be desired. We recommend setting this option to "Medium" – at this level, the effect is noticeable but not excessive. Unfortunately, compared to other Philips models, the smoothing effect is less effective, which means that certain tonal transitions may still appear a bit uneven. An additional drawback is that this function also smooths out other details, such as the textures of materials like a shirt, which can affect the sharpness of the image.

When it comes to image scaling, the television performs very well. The image appears plastic and free of noticeable "jaggedness." This effect may appeal to many users, although some may prefer a more pronounced appearance. Fortunately, the television allows for sharpness adjustment, and this enables us to tailor the image to individual preferences.

If there is one area where Haier clearly shows it still has a long way to go compared to the market leaders, it is digital image processing. The upscaling, well... is just alright. And that’s really about all that can be said about it. It does what is expected of it: it ensures that lower resolution signals do not scare us with harsh pixelation on the screen and do not look like a forcibly enlarged postage stamp. However, it is far from the finesse and “intelligent” sharpening that more experienced players in this market have developed over the years. The biggest shortcoming of the Q80FUX software is the almost complete lack of any additional "cleaning" and smoothing functions for the image. The receiver does not offer any noise reduction or gradient improvement mechanisms. This means that with older or heavily compressed materials, we simply have to come to terms with the fact that any imperfections in tonal transitions or blending of colours, which we mentioned earlier, will continually accompany us during the viewing.

Blur and motion smoothness

5/10

4.5/10

Maximum refresh rate of the panel
60Hz
60Hz
Film motion smoothing option
OK
OK
Blur reduction option
No
No
BFI function 60Hz
No
No
BFI function 120Hz
No
No
Brightness drop with BFI
-%
-%

Blur (native resolution, maximum refresh rate):

The Philips PML8709 is one of the few models with mini-LED technology on the market, offering a refresh rate of 60 Hz. Although it is not a panel for the most demanding gamers, it should satisfy those who mainly watch films. The television is equipped with the "Motion Style" function, which is a motion smoother that allows you to adjust the smoothness of motion according to preferences – from a more "plastic" look to a cinematic aesthetic with clearly visible frames.

The issue of motion fluidity and blurring is largely predetermined by the use of a 60-hertz panel, which naturally makes it difficult to recommend this receiver to enthusiasts of very dynamic content. Fortunately, in the Q80FUX, we find a few options (although, as we shall see shortly, in reality only one) that are supposed to improve the experience with older film productions. There is a "De-Judder" slider available, which actually controls the smoothness of the image and allows us to adjust it to our preferences: from raw, cinematic frame rates to a more theatrical, smoothed presentation. However, a true surprise awaits us just beside it in the menu. There is also a second slider, supposedly dedicated to removing blur – a feature we typically encounter in 120Hz panels to combat motion blur in sports. However, as we expected, recalling memories from the tests of the K85F model, this slider here is merely a façade. Its adjustment does absolutely nothing to the image and it simply appears to be an oversight by the product engineers who left a non-functional option in the software for this type of panel.

Console compatibility and gaming features

6/10

5.6/10

  • ALLM
    Yes
    Yes
  • VRR
    Yes
    Yes
  • VRR range
    48 - 60Hz
    48 - 120Hz
  • Dolby Vision Game Mode
    No
    Warning Yes, high input lag
  • Correct implementation of HGIG
    Yes
    No
  • 1080p@120Hz
    No
    Yes
  • 1440p@120Hz
    No
    No
  • 4K@120Hz
    No
    No
  • Game bar
    Yes
    No

Philips PML8709 is a television aimed more at casual gamers, primarily due to its 60 Hz panel, which may not meet the expectations of the most demanding users. However, for those who appreciate gaming at a more measured pace, this model may prove sufficient.

The television offers several gamer-friendly features, such as ALLM (automatic switching to game mode) and VRR (variable refresh rate), which help deliver smoother visuals without annoying stutters. Furthermore, in terms of HDR, it includes an HGiG implementation that adjusts HDR effects to the specifics of games, providing a more natural image in properly optimised titles. Unfortunately, it lacks support for Dolby Vision mode, which may be noticeable in games that utilise this format.

A nice addition is the presence of a basic "Game Bar," which allows for quick viewing and modification of the most important gaming-related settings. This is a simple but useful feature, especially for those who often switch configurations between different types of gameplay. Despite some limitations, Philips PML8709 offers a solid set of features for less demanding gamers.

Stepping into the realm of gaming, the Haier Q80FUX proves to be quite a decent companion for the "casual gamer". Onboard, we find highly desired features such as VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) and ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode). However, the biggest surprise is something else altogether. Although we are not dealing with a 4K@120Hz panel here, the television is capable of accepting and displaying a 120Hz signal at a lower resolution (Full HD). This is a very useful feature that allows for a conscious switch of the console to a lower resolution mode in exchange for significantly higher smoothness, which is a compromise entirely acceptable in the gaming world.

We won’t particularly complain about the lack of extras like the "Game Bar", as it's merely a nice addition. The most concerning issues arise when we delve into the world of HDR in gaming. Due to the television constantly adapting the signal "in its own way", setting the brightness on the console according to the HGIG standard is nearly impossible to achieve as per instructions. Worse still, in the Dolby Vision mode for gaming, the input lag increases to around 50 ms, which is a value high enough to render this mode practically unusable. However, in general, we would not recommend gaming on this television in HDR mode, so these are not such grave shortcomings. What is most pleasing is the presence of 120Hz in Full HD, which makes the Q80FUX a rather nice television for the occasional gamer.

Input lag

10/10

9.4/10

SDR

1080p60
13 ms
13 ms
1080p120
8 ms
2160p60
13 ms
13 ms
2160p120

HDR

2160p60
13 ms
12 ms
2160p120
4320p60

Dolby Vision

2160p60 DV
46 ms
2160p120 DV

Philips PML8709 performs very well in terms of input lag. At the supported resolutions, results around 13 ms are more than sufficient to ensure comfortable gameplay. Such a response time means that even more dynamic games do not cause annoying delays. As a result, players can enjoy smooth gameplay without unnecessary stress.

If there is one category in which the Haier Q80FUX absolutely shines and shows its claws, it is input lag. In this regard, the television presents results that are nothing short of remarkable. In 120Hz mode (achieved, let us remind you, at a lower resolution), input lag drops below 10 ms, which is an excellent value, worthy of high-end gaming monitors. Not much worse, and still at a very good level, is the classic 60Hz mode – here the measurements consistently indicated around 12-14 ms. These are results that significantly more expensive, dedicated gaming designs would not be ashamed of. The only serious stumble here is the Dolby Vision mode. As we have established before, its activation raises the lag to an unacceptable level, so we definitely advise against using it during any interactive gameplay.

Compatibility with PC

3.5/10

6/10

Chroma 444 (maximum resolution and refresh rate)
No
Yes
Font clarity
Average
Very Good
Readability of dark text and shapes
Good
Very Good
Input lag in PC mode (4K, maximum refresh rate)
13ms
13ms
Matrix subpixel arrangement
BGR
Max refresh rate
60Hz
60Hz
G-Sync
No
Yes
Review Philips PML8709 Compatibility with PC
Review Haier Q80FUX Compatibility with PC

The Philips PML8709 offers a dedicated mode for PC, but its capabilities are quite limited. The television does not support chroma 4:4:4, which significantly affects the readability of fonts – text appears blurred and is difficult to read, disqualifying this model for those planning to use it as a monitor for work or document viewing. Additionally, although in G-Sync tests the television showed compatibility, the image when using this function is very unstable, with frequent stuttering. Such unpredictability eliminates the benefits that adaptive sync support should provide.

The only positive aspect in the context of working with a PC is the low input lag, which may be an advantage for those using the television mainly for gaming. Nevertheless, the limitations in chroma support and issues with G-Sync make the PML8709 less than ideal for PC users.

We also checked, of course, how the Q80FUX performs when connected to a computer. And here’s another pleasant surprise – it handles this really very well. The most important thing is that the fonts are very readable, so nothing blurs and you can work on it normally. Additionally, just like with consoles: we can set a lower resolution here in exchange for achieving a high refresh rate of 120Hz. Importantly, in this mode, G-Sync launched correctly and worked well. This only confirms that this television is truly a successful and efficient piece of equipment for gaming, even on a PC.

Viewing angles

2.9/10

3.3/10

Brightness drop at an angle of 45 degrees
43%
75%

The Philips PML8709, equipped with a VA panel, offers average viewing angles typical for this type of display. The image deteriorates in quality when viewed from a sharper angle – colours wash out and contrast significantly decreases. This is a characteristic feature of VA panels and it is worth keeping in mind, especially if we plan to watch the television from different positions in the room. However, for viewers sitting directly in front, the picture remains clear and well-reproduced.

Anyone who plans screenings in a wide family group must be aware of the fundamental compromise that Haier has made by implementing a VA panel in this model. This technology has indeed given us deep blacks and high contrast, but its inherent characteristic is also a noticeable narrowing of viewing angles. It is enough to sit a bit further to the side of the sofa to immediately notice how the colours start to lose saturation and the image begins to fade. It’s simply a classic trade-off – we gain something (contrast) at the expense of something else (angles) – and the Q80FUX fits perfectly into this pattern.

Daytime performance

4.8/10

4.8/10

Panel finish
Satin
Satin
Reflection suppression
Average
Decent
Black levels during daytime
Very Good
Good
Review Philips PML8709 Daytime performance
Review Haier Q80FUX Daytime performance
Review Philips PML8709 Daytime performance
Review Haier Q80FUX Daytime performance

Panel brightness

Average luminance SDR

Haier Q80FUX: 317 cd/m2

Philips PML8709: 337 cd/m2

The Philips PML8709 is equipped with a satin matrix, which performs moderately well in reducing reflections. In moderately lit rooms, reflections will not be too bothersome; however, in heavily sunlit conditions, the situation can become problematic. An additional challenge is the relatively low screen brightness, measuring around 330 cd/m². This level may prove insufficient to ensure comfortable viewing in bright rooms, where the image may appear too dark and unclear. The television will perform better under controlled lighting conditions, but for those looking for a model that handles daytime viewing well, this may be a significant limitation.

The clash of the receiver with the daily challenges posed by a bright living room is quite decent in the case of the Q80FUX, although it is certainly difficult to speak of it as ideal. The panel itself is equipped with a coating that handles most reflections and glare from the surroundings quite effectively. Equally importantly, even in more challenging lighting conditions, the screen manages to retain pleasantly saturated colours. However, the weakness of this construction reveals itself where the brightness comes into play. The previously mentioned, rather moderate maximum brightness (around 350 nits) means that in confrontation with intense, natural light coming through the window, the screen often struggles to "break through". On a sunny day, the image may simply lack the appropriate impact.

Panel details

Backlight Type
Mini-LED QLED
PFS LED
Software version during testing
TPM242WW_R.001.001.053.210
UKN2.24119.053
Image processor
MT5896 3gb raM
MT5896 2GB RAM

Subpixel Structure:

Panel uniformity and thermal imaging:

Review Philips PML8709 TV Panel details
Review Haier Q80FUX TV Panel details

TV features

6.5/10

5.6/10

  • HDMI inputs
    3 x HDMI 2.0, 0 x HDMI 2.1
    4 x HDMI 2.0, 0 x HDMI 2.1
  • Other inputs
    RCA (Chinch)
  • Outputs
    Toslink (Optical audio), eARC (HDMI), ARC (HDMI)
    Toslink (Optical audio), eARC (HDMI), ARC (HDMI), Mini-Jack (Headphones)
  • Network Interfaces
    Wi-Fi 2.4GHz, Wi-Fi 5GHz, Ethernet (LAN) 100Mbps
    Wi-Fi 2.4GHz, Wi-Fi 5GHz, Ethernet (LAN) 100Mbps
  • TV reception
    DVB-T, DVB-T2, DVB-S, DVB-S2, DVB-C
    DVB-T, DVB-T2, DVB-S, DVB-S2, DVB-C

Classic features:

  • Recording to USB (terrestrial TV)
    No
    No
  • Recording programming
    No
    No
  • Picture in Picture (PiP)
    No
    No
  • RF remote control (no need to aim at the screen)
    No
    Yes
  • Backlit remote control
    Yes
    No
  • Teletext
    Yes
    No
  • Audio only mode
    Yes
    Yes
  • Bluetooth headphones support
    Yes
    Yes
  • Simultaneous Bluetooth headphones & TV audio
    No
    No

Smart features:

  • AirPlay
    Yes
    No
  • Screen mirroring (Windows Miracast)
    Yes
    Yes
  • Voice search
    Yes
    Yes
  • Voice search in native language
    Yes
    Yes
  • Ability to connect a keyboard and mouse
    Yes
    Yes
Review Philips PML8709 TV features
Review Philips PML8709 TV features
Review Philips PML8709 TV features
Review Philips PML8709 TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features
Review Haier Q80FUX TV features

Philips PML8709 runs on the Google TV operating system. This is quite a surprising choice, considering that it is not a flagship model of the brand. Fortunately, it has avoided the implementation of the less popular TitanOS, which can be seen as a plus. Google TV offers a well-known, clear interface and wide possibilities for app installation, making the television more versatile.

In terms of usability, the television performs solidly. Daily use of the device is pleasant, thanks to support for voice search in Polish. The ability to connect peripheral devices such as keyboards, mice or headphones via Bluetooth increases its functionality. Unfortunately, the PML8709 does not offer more advanced options like USB recording or PiP (picture-in-picture) functionality, which may disappoint more demanding users.

An interesting fact, and quite a surprise, is the absence of the Ambilight system, for which Philips is widely known. The decision to omit this technology in the PML8709 model seems inexplicable, especially since Ambilight is often cited as one of the greatest advantages of televisions from this brand.

SmartTV on Haier Q80FUX: GoogleTV

Let's start with the smart layer, which in the Q80FUX is managed by the Google TV system. This is theoretically a huge advantage, opening access to an incredible library of apps, facilitating screen mirroring from mobile devices, and offering convenient voice search. Unfortunately, just like in other models from this brand that we tested, the implementation of this platform leaves much to be desired. It's not even about drastic stuttering or delays in navigation, but rather a festival of minor errors, oversights, and terrible translations in the menu. Because of this, it's hard to regard "Google TV" in Haier's version as equal to what we find in receivers from Sony or TCL, even though the same proudly sounding name is displayed on the box.

Classic Features

Moving on to the classic, functional features of the television, the image of the device does not improve at all. The only commendable aspect is the presence of Bluetooth connectivity and an unusual but useful relic from the past in the form of an analogue headphone jack output. Aside from that, it's hard to find anything that would excite us. Due to the problematic software, the receiver (like its predecessors in our tests) was unable to find any terrestrial television channels, despite other televisions connected to the same installation having no issues whatsoever. The remote control itself is also strange – its design may appeal to some, but due to the lack of a numeric keypad and the absurd placement of some buttons on the side edge, it definitely cannot be called senior-friendly.

Playing files from USB

7.6/10

9.6/10

Supported photo formats:

JPEG
Yes
Yes
HEIC
Yes
Yes
PNG
Yes
Yes
GIF
Yes
Yes
WebP
Yes
Yes
TIFF
No
No
BMP
Yes
Yes
SVG
No
No

Maximum photo resolution:

4 Mpix
Yes
Yes
6 Mpix
Yes
Yes
8 Mpix
Yes
Yes
10 Mpix
Yes
Yes
12 Mpix
Yes
Yes
16 Mpix
Yes
Yes
20 Mpix
Yes
Yes
24 Mpix
Yes
Yes
28 Mpix
Yes
Yes
32 Mpix
Yes
Yes

Philips PML8709 performs well in playing multimedia files from USB. The television should not have problems with handling most popular video, audio, and photo formats, making it a versatile tool for home entertainment. Files are read smoothly, and the interface of the built-in player is simple and intuitive.

However, a significant drawback is the lack of support for Polish characters in subtitles, stemming from the incomplete implementation of the UTF-8 standard. Subtitles with Polish characters are displayed incorrectly, which can be frustrating for those watching films in their native language. This shortcoming means that users seeking full compatibility with subtitles may be forced to resort to external multimedia players.

We must admit that after a series of setbacks we experienced in assessing the overall implementation of the Google TV system, we approached the media player test with considerable reservation. Meanwhile, in this one specific aspect, the Q80FUX served us a genuine surprise. The built-in application for managing files from USB drives works simply excellently. This software component seems to be completely immune to the ailments that afflict the rest of the system, opening practically all the most important and popular video file formats that we presented to it.

Apps

9.6/10

9.6/10

OK
Disney_Plus
OK
Amazon_Prime_Video
OK
Player_TVN
OK
Polsat_Box_Go
OK
Canal_Plus_Online
OK
TVP_VOD
OK
Apple_TV_Plus
OK
SkyShowtime
OK
Rakuten
OK
CDA_Premium_Browser
OK
Spotify
OK
Tidal
OK
Netflix
OK
YouTube
OK
HBO_MAX
OK
Kodi
No
Apple_music
OK
Eleven_sports
No
Xbox Game Pass
OK
GeForce Now!
No
Amazon Luna
OK
Boosteroid
OK
Steam Link
OK
Disney_Plus
OK
Amazon_Prime_Video
OK
Player_TVN
OK
Polsat_Box_Go
OK
Canal_Plus_Online
OK
TVP_VOD
OK
Apple_TV_Plus
OK
SkyShowtime
OK
Rakuten
OK
CDA_Premium_Browser
OK
Spotify
OK
Tidal
OK
Netflix
OK
YouTube
OK
HBO_MAX
OK
Kodi
No
Apple_music
OK
Eleven_sports
No
Xbox Game Pass
OK
GeForce Now!
No
Amazon Luna
OK
Boosteroid
OK
Steam Link

Sound

5.1/10

5.5/10

  • Maximum volume
    -
    84dB
  • Dolby Digital Plus 7.1
    Yes
    Yes
  • Dolby True HD 7.1
    No
    Yes
  • Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus (JOC)
    Yes
    Yes
  • Dolby Atmos in Dolby True HD
    No
    No
  • DTS:X in DTS-HD MA
    Yes
    No
  • DTS-HD Master Audio
    Yes
    No

The sound quality of the Philips PML8709 is average and standard for a television equipped with speakers rated at 2 x 10 W. The sound is sufficient for everyday viewing, but it is difficult to expect depth in the bass or clear details in more demanding scenes. On the plus side, it does support Dolby Atmos and DTS.

When it comes to acoustic "experiences", the Haier Q80FUX seems to adhere to the principle that sound is simply meant to be there. And it is – that's about all that can be said. The built-in speakers deliver an exceptionally flat sound, lacking character, and above all, they lack any distinct bass foundation. A small consolation is the fact that the television supports Dolby Atmos format. However, let's be honest: to truly benefit from the merits of this codec and hear the promised spatial quality, passive decoding capability is not enough. Connecting an external home theatre system or at least a decent soundbar is, in this case, not just a recommendation but an absolute necessity.

Sound Quality Test

No sound test video

Acoustic Measurements

No acoustic data

84dBC (Max)

75dBC